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16 July 2007 @ 03:01 am
HARRY POTTER. Now that I've got your attention...  
First, saw Order of the Phoenix. It was confusing, disjointed, rushed, and nonsensical in that special way only movies that try to cram 600 pages into two hours can be. If you have never read the book or, like me, remember very little about the books because you're the last soul on the planet that could give or take Harry Potter, then you won't have a damn clue what's going on. But it's a very pretty mess!

That being said, and my position of not caring about the books now known, I hereby decree the following: this journal, and this entry in particular, is a Harry Potter Book 7 Spoiler Free-For-All. I want to know what happens, but I don't want to 1.) buy the book or 2.) wait months for a copy to grace my library shelves. I'd be a moron to think I could remain spoiler free for that long, and quite frankly, I really don't care enough to try to be. So I'm going the opposite route: squee, give away major plot details, write a detailed synopsis of the book from beginning to end, go crazy! I want to be able to talk about this book like I have read it without having to actually drudge through 800+ pages or beat small children for the privilege of doing so. Have fun!

Current Mood: deviousevil
Rook the Librarian: annoyedgisho on July 16th, 2007 01:14 pm (UTC)
I, uh, have not got a copy and probably won't, but supposedly someone posted photos of the epilouge, and Harry lives. Frankly I was hoping he'd die.
Amelia: Beastlypadparadscha on July 16th, 2007 04:54 pm (UTC)
I would, but like you I couldn't be buggered to care much about Harry. (Which is very sad, since I loved it before it jumped the shark.) But I'm glad you've decreed this--I often prefer spoilers. I don't really care about The Experience or anything. So rest assured I'll be checking this back.
childthursdaychildthursday on July 16th, 2007 09:38 pm (UTC)
I have taken to lying to people about this. I haven't pre-ordered the book. I figure I'll grab it about a week after the release and read it on the plane on my vacation.

I haven't read any spoilers (I just haven't been looking), but I'm pretty damn sure I'll be disappointed with the book. Rowling's decision to end the series now seems ill-timed. I don't think she can do a good or even satisfactory job of wrapping things up. Kind of like when they decided, mid-season, to end Voyager.

If the books is that bad, I think I'll pretend that it didn't happen and stick with fanfic. There's some incredible stuff out there.
suneko: elephantsuneko on July 17th, 2007 01:33 am (UTC)
I must admit to being a huge fan of the HP series, more so in the later books than in the earlier ones. I will be happy to reveal spoilers, and am willing to admit here that I am actually going to Borders, with friends in costume (friends in costume, not me!)to pick up #7 at midnight Friday night.

However, if anyone harbors a secret desire to read the book incognito, I recommend this site for free fake book covers. These are a hoot.

Jaqui: harry potter (group)storyinmypocket on July 22nd, 2007 04:02 pm (UTC)
Answering your question here, instead of in my journal, about what might have made the Doctor cry:

There're several that could've done the job.

Fred. I've heard people complain about how the Weasley twins were unrealistic, because they acted like they were the same person. But in the end, realistic or not, that makes it worse for George to have lost him. They never touch on it, but he just lost half of himself, and that's still bothering me the next morning.

The entire Remus/Tonks subplot, and how that ends. If the Doctor read that post-Time War... Well. Little war-orphan Ted Lupin.

Snape, who did all the right things for all the wrong reasons, and all the wrong things for the right reasons. You were right, and so was I, but you knew that. I never believed Snape was really evil, but I also believed that he wasn't wholly good. His motives, whatever they were, were entirely his own, and unconcerned with the larger issues of the war itself. And at the end, he was willing to die for the woman he loved, years later. I suspect he'd been willing to take that step for a long time, actually. Part of him died when Lily did. Of course, I very much doubt he read the book post-Doomsday, but if he did... Ouch. Fucking ouch.

And the little twisted dying thing in Harry's mindscape, at the end where he doesn't die. A bit of Voldemort's soul, though it's never named as such. Painful on many levels, considering that, as terrible as he is, the Doctor is also deeply kind, deeply caring, and his first instinct is always to try and help. He's merciless when someone's beyond help, but it doesn't hurt any less, especially when he has to face what he's done, I don't think. He just doesn't show it anymore.

Let's not forget the part where he's going to his death and he knows it, and he summons his parents, and Remus and Sirius, to give him enough strength to go through with it. If nothing else made him cry throughout the whole damn book, that would've done it for him. Did for me.

A lot of my thoughts about the Doctor crying really do hinge on it being post-Time War when he read the thing.

Because, in the end, it's just Harry. Him, and the Enemy, and certain death. Everyone else, everyone he always thought greater and more knowledgeable than him, who he trusted to guide him through it, is dead. And his surviving friends can do nothing for him. Just before the end, he's so horribly, absolutely alone.

And when it's really over and Voldemort's defeated, yes, Harry has someone to come back to, which shows that JKR, at least, is a bit kinder than whatever forces wrote the Doctor's life. (From his perspective, not ours, because we know who wrote it...) But I don't think for one second Harry's situation wouldn't have struck a very deep, very painful chord with the Doctor himself. And, in some ways, the fact that Harry did have someone to come back to makes it worse.